Hi there,
Neither NickC nor myself called you stupid, and if I may add; I do not see the need to call yourself that in your last post either. Regardless, we are both spending our valuable time to help you. I may add that you are at this point a random stranger to us and we are not getting paid to help random strangers on this forum. We are merely trying to be nice and helpful, and more importantly; responsible.
This place is about mutual learning, in an open forum format.
Your tone does not make it easy for me to help you find the answer. Because of this I have to say that I wish you luck with your project.
To all: The issue of people working of layouts only without sufficient knowledge on schematics, safety codes, or simply to complete a circuit, like hooking up a PT, should be addressed, IMHO. It has been mentioned a few times recently by others as well Would it be good to have a sticky with safety guidelines regarding working on tube amps and how to wire up a PT according to national (USA, EU, etc) safety regulations/codes? Other suggestions?
Thanks!
Jelle
Heyboer HTS-5200 color color code
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Re: Heyboer HTS-5200 color color code
Dmac252 wrote:Look if I had purchased the Ceriatone transformers I would not even need to to ask you guys anything. the amp is done except for this one wire, I was trying to be safe by asking those with experience, all I really need is for someone to make the correlation between the wire labeled "0" on the transform layout. No need to call me stupid because I am a hobbyist regarding this Amp. If you don't want to help just say so and I will not post here any more.
We're trying to help you, and keep you alive.
These circuits are deadly dangerous EVEN if you know what you're doing.
I have already answered your question, but I'll try one more time to clarify and answer EXACTLY what you just asked.
On the far right of the layout is the entry point for the power transformer wires to enter the interior of the chassis.
There are markings for: 240 (red), 120 (blue), 100 (orange), 0 (black), H1 & H2 (brown), fil. CT (grey), E-shield (green)
You ask for correlation of the 0 connection on the layout, and the transformer diagram (Heyboer HTS-5199 from rj).
On the left side of the power transformer diagram are two black wires, both labeled 120v. Those are the primary wires that take wall AC and transform it to the voltages coming out of the secondary windings. One of those black wires is connected to point on the power switch marked C1. It should be the hot leg of the wall supply AC ...... that comes into the rear panel socket L (red on diagram) .... from there a hookup wire (hopefully also red) goes to one leg of the fuse holder, and another (hopefully red) wire goes from the other leg of the fuse holder to the front panel AC switch at the lug marked C1 on the layout. Just below that connection , on the same side of the power switch ..... connect one of the two black primary wires from the power transformer.
The other black power transformer primary lead goes to the power switch lug immediately below the switch lug labeled C2. As you can see on the layout diagram, that is the black wire marked 0. That is the neutral wire that corresponds to the neutral wire from the wall AC coming in at the rear socket connector. There must be a length of (preferably 16 or 18 gauge white) wire from the socket point marked N (for neutral) to the power switch point marked C2 (upper right lug on diagram).
Also notice there is an MOV that connects between the middle lugs of the power switch ....... that also connects to the PT primaries and also the 120v mains pilot light. Be careful there.
Know this ...... electrolytic caps in the amp power supply can store enough charge to kill you even after the amp has been disconnected from wall power. It can hold that deadly charge for weeks, or months. BE CAREFUL!
Not trying to insult you here ...... but if you are in doubt about any of this, take the amp to someone that knows this stuff cold. Jelle made a very generous offer ...... please consider it.
Re: Heyboer HTS-5200 color color code
jelle wrote:Hi there,
Neither NickC nor myself called you stupid, and if I may add; I do not see the need to call yourself that in your last post either. Regardless, we are both spending our valuable time to help you. I may add that you are at this point a random stranger to us and we are not getting paid to help random strangers on this forum. We are merely trying to be nice and helpful, and more importantly; responsible.
This place is about mutual learning, in an open forum format.
Your tone does not make it easy for me to help you find the answer. Because of this I have to say that I wish you luck with your project.
To all: The issue of people working of layouts only without sufficient knowledge on schematics, safety codes, or simply to complete a circuit, like hooking up a PT, should be addressed, IMHO. It has been mentioned a few times recently by others as well Would it be good to have a sticky with safety guidelines regarding working on tube amps and how to wire up a PT according to national (USA, EU, etc) safety regulations/codes? Other suggestions?
Thanks!
Jelle
You bring up excellent points. Now I'm second guessing myself if I should have left this matter alone. These situations worry me. It's too easy for folks that don't know any better to get in the deep end and not be able to swim. It's too dangerous for folks that don't have a baseline of knowledge to be messing with.
Sorry that I missed your interim reply as I was composing my post. Didn't mean to offer your assistance in this situation. Apologies if I overstepped.