Expression 2 has arrived (chassis pix)

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Re: Expression 2 has arrived (chassis pix)

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tubedogsmith wrote:Ron, I know this isn't your first rodeo. Do you have any trouble with notes dying fast with it cranked? Have you scoped it by any chance? Running the presence wire through the filament wires and having the grid wires in proximity to all that just never worked right for me. Maybe I need more patience.
I don't have any problem with notes dying fast. I find there is huge difference in sustain that depends on the PUs (especially when unpotted) and guitar. Does your sustain depend on where you set the presence control? If so, check the value of the 100k feedback divider resistor.

I always run the presence-feedback wire next to the chassis (ground) and directly between the speaker jack (or switch) and the phase inverter (don't run it around the chassis).

Crossing filament wires is OKay if they are twisted; the reason for the twist is to get cancellation between current elements that could induce a hum or other signal.

There are two kinds of grid wires and I'm not sure which you are asking about. One is just screen bias to the output tubes through the 1k/5W resistors, and those wires are at signal ground through their filter caps. The other is the guitar signal from the phase inverter. The latter are flying leads that are far enough away from other leads to avoid problems.

PS I just plugged in, turned the amp to about 1 o'clock and stood across the room facing away from the 4-12 to avoid feedback. I confirmed that the notes easily sustain themselves without string or PU feedback.

PPS One suggestion re the note sustain problem: check your power supply! At high volume the amp needs more stored energy and yours may have a problem with a filter cap. Make sure the caps supplying the CT of the OT are connected directly to the diode bridge. Any resistor in there will delay resupplying energy to these caps.
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Re: Expression 2 has arrived (chassis pix)

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I don't have any problems in my amps but I run things a lot differently, I'll try what you're doing sometime. Here's a pic of an amp I built several years ago. The presence wire is up in the air but lies agains the chassis cover(bottom) when in use. This amp is very quiet with no anomilies.

[img:925:449]https://tubeamparchive.com/files/ex_1_146.jpg[/img]
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I posted a while ago a trick for using hot glue that works well. Take a hair dryer or heat gun if you have one. Heat the chassis under where you will put the caps...not to hot! Put your hot glue on he chassis and place your caps in it Jiggle them back and forth a little to get maximum coverage and minimum space between the caps and chassis (this will eliminate the caps sticking up too high in the chassis). You should have PLENTY of time before the glue hardens. This works great. I was told the vinegary smell silicon contains acetic acid (hence the smell) and can corrode aluminum over time. I'm not sure but better to be safe.

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Interesting topic . I had a thought along these lines too. The interaction of the ferrous metal screws used in Francesca have a debilitating effect on the Aluminum over a shorter period of time than acidic acid. I was a contract glazier for 30 years and the same GE or DOW silicones were spec'd for the joints where glass & Al met. I've seen disasterous electrochemical distruction of non-stainless fasteners joining aluminum in curtainwall [highrise] type installations though. Granted these are exterior building components not our cherished amp builds. But as a tone chaperone I can say this much about that. Don't let folks know we really DO get so anal about our amps!LOL[ Did anyone notice Ken used sheet metal screws on the 9 pin sockets!! [not machine screws and Keps nuts]Bwa-a-ah!, in my best Hank Hill voice.--Er, uh, as you were gentlemen.
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Allynmey wrote:I posted a while ago a trick for using hot glue that works well. Take a hair dryer or heat gun if you have one. Heat the chassis under where you will put the caps...not to hot! Put your hot glue on he chassis and place your caps in it Jiggle them back and forth a little to get maximum coverage and minimum space between the caps and chassis (this will eliminate the caps sticking up too high in the chassis). You should have PLENTY of time before the glue hardens. This works great. I was told the vinegary smell silicon contains acetic acid (hence the smell) and can corrode aluminum over time. I'm not sure but better to be safe.

Allyn
last night my gf showned me that she had a glue gun( for crafts- has two settings - high 330F - low 220F) and after reading about the silicone perhaps i will try the glue gun. i already put silicone on the caps but i guess i can peel it off. just need to get some glue sticks now.
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I'll bet she has a blow dryer too... (;->
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i asked and she does! :lol:
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