Great job on these files, BTW. I am not throwing stones without thanking you for your hard work, of course.
The PDF schematic is drawn incorrectly for the Rocket...
Moderators: pompeiisneaks, Colossal
The PDF schematic is drawn incorrectly for the Rocket...
Ron? I downloaded the PDF schematic for the Rocket from the TW Files section. OK, I notice the AC hookup is wired for a possible deathly conclusion. The layout PDF shows the correct method for AC hookup, but for those of us who refer to the schematics this should be updated?
Great job on these files, BTW. I am not throwing stones without thanking you for your hard work, of course.
Great job on these files, BTW. I am not throwing stones without thanking you for your hard work, of course.
Last edited by rooster on Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:32 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Most people stall out when fixing a mistake that they've made. Why?
Re: The PDF schematic is drawn incorrectly for the Rocket...
Yes the fuse should be on the hot side.
Gary
Gary
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
In the 60's people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world is weird , and they take Prozac to make it normal.
Re: The PDF schematic is drawn incorrectly for the Rocket...
Should it be this way in all amps? I think I remember seeing another schematic where the fuse was in the other leg.
Re: The PDF schematic is drawn incorrectly for the Rocket...
well, as soon as you plug the powerchord the other way into the wall, the fuse is on the other side. 
-
guitarsnguns04
- Posts: 286
- Joined: Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:49 pm
Re: The PDF schematic is drawn incorrectly for the Rocket...
or a miswired outlet will do the same thing
-
Andy Le Blanc
- Posts: 2582
- Joined: Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:16 am
- Location: central Maine
Re: The PDF schematic is drawn incorrectly for the Rocket...
Its like a western, the guy that can kill you always wears black.
NEVER trust the wall outlet.
NEVER trust the wall outlet.
lazymaryamps
Re: The PDF schematic is drawn incorrectly for the Rocket...
I have seen many schematics with the switch on the hot side and the fuse on the neutral side, or vice versa. Also seen them with oth on the hot side. You live and you learn. Or you learn so that you can live another day.
Putting standards aside for a minute...what is the reasoning behind always putting the fuse on the hot side? What makes that safer?
Putting standards aside for a minute...what is the reasoning behind always putting the fuse on the hot side? What makes that safer?
Re: The PDF schematic is drawn incorrectly for the Rocket...
To meet any modern safety legislation the fuse must always be in the hot lead, before the power switch.
It should also be wired such that the means lead side hot wire goes to the end terminal and the switch side hot wire goes to the side terminal. This is so that if the fuse cover is removed there is no possibility of a (small) finger reaching the side terminal whilst it is live.
It should also be wired such that the means lead side hot wire goes to the end terminal and the switch side hot wire goes to the side terminal. This is so that if the fuse cover is removed there is no possibility of a (small) finger reaching the side terminal whilst it is live.
Re: The PDF schematic is drawn incorrectly for the Rocket...
Which side of the mains wiring is more likely to kill you? So in the event of a fault, that's the side you want to switch off (via blowing a fuse) as close to source as possible.sliberty wrote:Putting standards aside for a minute...what is the reasoning behind always putting the fuse on the hot side? What makes that safer?
-
Andy Le Blanc
- Posts: 2582
- Joined: Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:16 am
- Location: central Maine
Re: The PDF schematic is drawn incorrectly for the Rocket...
Without proper grounding you create the conditions for an electrocution hazard no mater what.
The white wire is supposed to be the neutral leg,
or two wire ground. Conditions can arise where you can get it even through
this, so there is also the earth ground. The problem is that there is a lot of interchange
between these depending upon code and building history.
A customer once called me in a panic about his amp. It was throwing shocks
even when it wasn't on. I'm thorough with my power side and had the
confidence to tell him to call an electrician. Probably saved his life.
Brand new condo, forget about it.
The white wire is supposed to be the neutral leg,
or two wire ground. Conditions can arise where you can get it even through
this, so there is also the earth ground. The problem is that there is a lot of interchange
between these depending upon code and building history.
A customer once called me in a panic about his amp. It was throwing shocks
even when it wasn't on. I'm thorough with my power side and had the
confidence to tell him to call an electrician. Probably saved his life.
Brand new condo, forget about it.
lazymaryamps
Re: The PDF schematic is drawn incorrectly for the Rocket...
Thanks Paulster, that is exactly what I needed...a good explaination.paulster wrote:To meet any modern safety legislation the fuse must always be in the hot lead, before the power switch.
It should also be wired such that the means lead side hot wire goes to the end terminal and the switch side hot wire goes to the side terminal. This is so that if the fuse cover is removed there is no possibility of a (small) finger reaching the side terminal whilst it is live.
Re: The PDF schematic is drawn incorrectly for the Rocket...
Use a Corcom module that is fused on both legs EU style.sliberty wrote:I have seen many schematics with the switch on the hot side and the fuse on the neutral side, or vice versa. Also seen them with oth on the hot side. You live and you learn. Or you learn so that you can live another day.
Putting standards aside for a minute...what is the reasoning behind always putting the fuse on the hot side? What makes that safer?
[img:250:197]http://www.corcom.com/Series/PEM/M/European-Fusing.gif[/img]
- Ron Worley
- Posts: 908
- Joined: Mon Dec 24, 2007 8:21 pm
- Location: Keller, TX
Re: The PDF schematic is drawn incorrectly for the Rocket...
I'm confused.... the rocket layout has the black lead to the fuse as noted above.... what exactly is wrong on the layout??
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Ron
Re: The PDF schematic is drawn incorrectly for the Rocket...
Ron
The layout is good. The schematic has the fuse on the cold side though.
Paul
The layout is good. The schematic has the fuse on the cold side though.
Paul
- Ron Worley
- Posts: 908
- Joined: Mon Dec 24, 2007 8:21 pm
- Location: Keller, TX
Re: The PDF schematic is drawn incorrectly for the Rocket...
Ah, got it.... I did not do the Schematic, but will see if I can modify it.....
Ron