Rattling Noise

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tob
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Rattling Noise

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Hi everyone,

I just finished building my first Express clone and while it does sound amazing there's a pronounced rattling noise (very much like a loose screw/washer) that gets amplified and whose intensity peaks when certain notes and chords are being played...so resonance seems to play a role.

Would anybody here here have an idea as to where to look for the source of this problem? Microphonic tubes maybe?

Cheers,
Tobias
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Do you have the amp on top of the speaker cabinet your using? If you can either take it off, or put some foam in-between the two, you should be able to tell if it's a mechanical vibration or not.
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Sounds like a tube to me. Click your fingernail on them or replace one at a time.
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Buschman wrote:Sounds like a tube to me. Click your fingernail on them or replace one at a time.
Hard to know without hearing it, but I've had this with a rectifier tube (obviously not on the Express). I was amazed by this. On removing it, a light tap with the fleshy part of the finger, while holding it near my ear gave a very clear an audible acoustic duplication of the problem noise.
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tob wrote:Hi everyone,

I just finished building my first Express clone and while it does sound amazing there's a pronounced rattling noise (very much like a loose screw/washer) that gets amplified and whose intensity peaks when certain notes and chords are being played...so resonance seems to play a role.

Would anybody here here have an idea as to where to look for the source of this problem? Microphonic tubes maybe?

Cheers,
Tobias
Uh... Could it be... a "loose screw/washer"???
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Doug H wrote:Uh... Could it be... a "loose screw/washer"???
thanks for stating the obvious, Doug, but it's not a loose screw or washer. I did check on that, naturally. :D
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You might want to check that your end bells screws are on tight.

I was getting some rattle which was caused by the resonance of the PT's hum.
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Let me repeat myself. Have you isolated the amp chassis from the cabinet to make sure it only occurs when there is physical and/or acoustic contact between the two?

The reason I'm asking is to make sure it's not something in the cabinet or the room itself. A new/different amp can bring out different resonances than with previous/other amps.
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gearhead wrote:Let me repeat myself. Have you isolated the amp chassis from the cabinet to make sure it only occurs when there is physical and/or acoustic contact between the two?

The reason I'm asking is to make sure it's not something in the cabinet or the room itself. A new/different amp can bring out different resonances than with previous/other amps.
I get that all the time...sometimes I have to move amps that aren't even connected because something in the chassis starts vibrating!

I guess if I didn't have all my amps and cabs stacked 3 high I wouldn't have this problem.. :)
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gearhead wrote:Let me repeat myself. Have you isolated the amp chassis from the cabinet to make sure it only occurs when there is physical and/or acoustic contact between the two?

The reason I'm asking is to make sure it's not something in the cabinet or the room itself. A new/different amp can bring out different resonances than with previous/other amps.
Yeah, the chassis does sit right on top of the cab so far. I'll see whether exchanging tubes and putting it in a proper wood case with rubber feet has any effect. If the problem prevails I'll record and upload an mp3.
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