Mercury Mag AC cable?

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Aurora wrote:
Colossal wrote:
As Tonemerc said, it is a nice red cable :lol:
How 'bout for playing the Blues... 8)
That red cable and a nice strong drink is a perfect combination for playing the blues!

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I could hear interconnect and speaker cable differences in good hifi but I never bothered a/b-ing power cords. I too can't accept that after a hundred feet or way more of Romex 6 feet of powercord can possibly matter. I can however see two otherwise identical powercords one shielded and one not possibly sounding a bit different - with the shielded one sounding worse as that was usually my experience with hifi interconnets. Anyway, if powercords matter I don't want to know, especially w/ MI amps.

BTW with tube equipment this type of sonic minutia is silly, tube stuff never sounds the same from one day to the next :lol:

What I have clearly heard in hifi mains power is cleaning stuff up, physically, like the plugs if they are brass, both the plugs and outlets with some abrasives and some Caig. It's a most splendid idea to undo and clean all your connections on your hifi once or twice a year - from wall to speakers. Just making and breaking the connections a few times even without cleaning helps.
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http://www.mitcables.com/available-onli ... e-ac2.html

BTW if your 6 feet of power cable doesn't have a chunky box built in, well, you are one sorry lost soul. This one's got TWO magic boxes and is investment banker certified!

Anyone know what's in the boxes? Maybe it's a choke made out of meteoric iron talismans recycled from a pharaoh's tomb, or maybe the boxes are filled with desiccated ground smurfs? Whatever's in there for $5k it's got to be something really really really good! I'm ready to spend the $5K just to crack one open, but then the universe might end!
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A danish HiFi mag had one of these magic boxes x-rayed, about 20 yrs ago, when they first started to appear.......
Guess what was inside that one......... NOTHING.. :D

I've been fiddling with HiFi and audio since the 70's, but I stopped buying HiFi mags more than 10yrs ago. They're complete crammed with mumbo-jumbo and completely stupid metaphysics, theory and explanations beyond everything rooted in technology and physics, as if HiFi is beyond the laws governing everything else in the tech and science world.
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Clyde, come on over. 8)

Like I said, everything the nay sayers are saying here is me one week ago. I also used to say the same thing about Mullard single getter XF2 EL34s and Holland Amperex 12AX7s in an Express, or Saratov EL84s in a Rocket.

The comment that the cord would make a difference in a poorly built amp? Where's the logic in that? It's only when things are sorted out that the things that could make a difference, do make a difference. Well, in my world.
Most people stall out when fixing a mistake that they've made. Why?
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Aurora wrote:A danish HiFi mag had one of these magic boxes x-rayed, about 20 yrs ago, when they first started to appear.......Guess what was inside that one......... NOTHING.. :D
NOTHING? Say it ain't so! There could be peanut butter in there and the x-rays wouldn't see it! At least the Smurfs are safe.

Rooster, just curious is that MM cord shielded? Does it say anything on it (ie made in USA or China?)

A few years ago Naim Audio introduced new stock generic powercords which were also available from them for $25 as an upgrade, which is oddly reasonable and honest in the hifi accessory/audio jewelry sector. The Naim crowd (a fairly sane and savvy bunch) all raved, wonder if it's the same IEC? I think they were just Chinese IEC cords and someone, a dealer or at the factory, must have stumbled upon something notable.

I can see some cords degrading what's coming out of the wall but I can't see a cord improving what's coming out. I guess the ultimate test would be to have your EC run an extra 6 feet of Romex or BX out your wall and then wire-nut that to your PT leads and use that as a baseline :)

I don't goof on cheap tweaks, just accessories that cost as much or more than the equipment itself. The really sad thing about luxo power line accessories is that for $500-$1000 you can get an EC to run a dedicated spur to your listening room to a double quad of Hubble outlets (no more plugstrips) and double check your house's grounding - now that could make a very real difference and a much more sound investment.
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rooster wrote:Clyde, come on over. 8)

Like I said, everything the nay sayers are saying here is me one week ago. I also used to say the same thing about Mullard single getter XF2 EL34s and Holland Amperex 12AX7s in an Express, or Saratov EL84s in a Rocket.

The comment that the cord would make a difference in a poorly built amp? Where's the logic in that? It's only when things are sorted out that the things that could make a difference, do make a difference. Well, in my world.
The whole problem with your observations and conclusions is that you know which cord you're listening to. Because you've paid good money for the new cord that someone has told you will let you experience audio nirvana, you've "bought in". Without knowing, it's a whole different ball game.
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Clyde wrote:
rooster wrote:Clyde, come on over. 8)

Like I said, everything the nay sayers are saying here is me one week ago. I also used to say the same thing about Mullard single getter XF2 EL34s and Holland Amperex 12AX7s in an Express, or Saratov EL84s in a Rocket.

The comment that the cord would make a difference in a poorly built amp? Where's the logic in that? It's only when things are sorted out that the things that could make a difference, do make a difference. Well, in my world.
The whole problem with your observations and conclusions is that you know which cord you're listening to. Because you've paid good money for the new cord that someone has told you will let you experience audio nirvana, you've "bought in". Without knowing, it's a whole different ball game.
Years ago I did a blind test with a few different players ....when I worked for a company that was going to make a power cable.....they thought they made the cable everyone would use.....using all that hi fi BS. I ..because I'm not into all hi fi BS....went to the 99 cent store and bought one there. We also tried a few of the "best" ...one was $300 ..only one box on it tho... :lol: the one everybody thought was the best......99cent one. :P
I do have a few of these MM ones tho ...and I do like them.
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Mercury would never use hype and BS to sell a product, would they?
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martin manning wrote:Mercury would never use hype and BS to sell a product, would they?
After this post they will up the price to $99 a cable. Like when a wine gets a good review in Wine Spectator.
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martin manning wrote:Mercury would never use hype and BS to sell a product, would they?
Not to me... they are very cool over there ...I don't use any other transformers. There was a difference in the power cables...that you would clearly hear and they have their place..like a studio ....but .. When you play out ...most of the power you are going to use ..at that club or bar... will give you a different tone out of the amp..also the room will change the sound...so to me as a guitar player..I just don't care about all this cable crap :lol:
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Got me curious . are you guys getting them wholesale? I'd pay 10-15 bucks for a high quality cable. What gauge are they?
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cbass wrote:Got me curious . are you guys getting them wholesale? I'd pay 10-15 bucks for a high quality cable. What gauge are they?
Cbass, they are 14AWG.
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I found them on the MM site looks like they have 12awg also
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You can buy high end shielded power cables from Mouser.

A few years back when all this power cord mumbo jumbo for guitar amps came about, I did some research on them.

Funny how having an expensive cord for the last six feet of a power grid can dramatically improve things, like the pocket book of vendors.

Do they make shielded Romex? :wink:

Most are heavier gauge wire, they have very good quality ends and they're shielded.

Volex brand.

14ga

$12.28 for 6' 7"

$17.84 for 9' 10"

http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDet ... y686-17604
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